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=== Lore ===

Shiv was chosen by [[Grey Talon]] as his replacement in the [[The Baxter Society|Baxter Society]].<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|Grey Talon|file=orion_ally_shiv_unkillable_01.mp3|transcription=There goes my protegé.}}</ref><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Holliday|number=1|hero_quote1=Holliday|quote1=So you're with the Baxter Society?|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Hand picked by the old man himself.}}</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"It seems I chose my replacement poorly."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"And here I thought you could replace me, Shiv."''</ref> He has been in the Society for "a few years" and says he is not respected by the other members.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Abrams|number=1}}</ref>

Shiv was chosen by {{HeroIcon|Grey Talon}} as his replacement in the [[The Baxter Society|Baxter Society]].<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|Grey Talon|file=orion_ally_shiv_unkillable_01.mp3|transcription=There goes my protegé.}}</ref><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Holliday|number=1|hero_quote1=Holliday|quote1=So you're with the Baxter Society?|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Hand picked by the old man himself.}}</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"It seems I chose my replacement poorly."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"And here I thought you could replace me, Shiv."''</ref> He has been in the Society for "a few years" and says he is not respected by the other members.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Abrams|number=1}}</ref>

Shiv's wish is unknown, although he seems to be fighting in the ritual to prove himself to Grey Talon and the Baxter Society.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Pre-Game|voice line]] (Pre-Game Ping): ''"I'll prove to the old man that I'm worthy."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Post-Game|voice line]] (Post-Game Ping): ''"I did what I came here to do."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Post-Game|voice line]] (Post-Game Ping): ''"Think the Baxter Society's gonna be lookin' at me different, now!"''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Emotional|voice line]] (Sad): ''"I never shoulda taken this job..."''</ref> The [[Patron|Patrons]] don't seem to know what Shiv exactly wants, as they attempt to feed his ambition by making him a king, or offer to make Shiv "whole".<ref>{{PageRef|name=Amber Hand}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"The Baxter Society has given you purpose, but there is something still missing, yes? Free me and I will help you."''</ref><ref name=":1">{{PageRef|name=Sapphire Flame}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"You've been many things, Shiv. A brigand, a father, a killer. But if you summon me, I'll make you a king."''</ref><ref name=":2">{{PageRef|name=Sapphire Flame}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"Shiv, the monster inside you is not the Beast, it is ambition. Complete the ritual and you will finally be sated."''</ref>

The ~~[[Sapphire Flame]]~~ says that Shiv ~~"has been" a father.<ref name=":1" /> She also says that he has a "monster inside him" called "The Beast",<ref name=":2" /> and that he~~ fears the Baxter Society could turn against him.<ref>{{PageRef|name=~~Sapphire Flame~~}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"~~I'' ''know you fear your brothers and sisters~~ in the Baxter Society turning on ~~you. But~~ if you complete the ~~Ritual~~, I can ensure ~~you~~ that never happens."''~~</ref> The [[Amber Hand]] mentions that Shiv wants to purge a "gift others would kill for".<ref>{{PageRef|name=Amber Hand}}~~'~~s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"Many men would kill for the gift you~~'~~re looking to purge. Nonetheless, complete the ritual and I will give you what you seek.~~"''</ref>

{{PageRef|name=The Archmother}} says that Shiv fears the Baxter Society could turn against him.<ref>{{PageRef|name=The Archmother}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"You found a new family in the Baxter Society, and now you fear them turning on you… but if you complete the ritual, the Archmother can ensure that never happens.''''"''</ref>

Shiv likes to go bowling<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|file=Shiv unselect 07.mp3|context=(Unselect)|transcription=Sorry friend, today is my day off and I'm going bowling.}}</ref> and drink [[wikipedia:Bourbon_whiskey|bourbon]].<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|file=Shiv unselect 09.mp3|context=(Unselect)|transcription=Looks like I'll be hanging out with my good friend 'Bourbon' today.}}</ref> He is also referred to as a biker.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Holliday|file=Astro kill shiv 02.mp3|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=You're not above the law Shiv, you're just a shitty biker.}}</ref>

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* Shiv has an [[:File:Monster Shiv model.png|alternate model]] in the game files titled '''"shiv_ult.vmdl_c"''' which shows an unfinished giant mole transformation, presumably meant for an old ultimate ability.

* Shiv is voiced by '''Greg Chun''', who also voices [[Pocket]].<ref name=":0">{{YouTubeCite|1=https://youtu.be/cB8SgHZF1GQ?t=229|2=Greg's top 100 Voiceover roles 2025}}</ref>

* In now removed voice lines, the [[Patron|Patrons]] said that Shiv "had been" a father<ref name=":1" /> and had a "monster inside him" called "The Beast".<ref name=":2" />

* Shiv used to collect hairspray cans, presumably as an old version of his Rage passive ability.

* Shiv's weapon name, the Busted Flush, is a hand in [[wikipedia:Poker|Poker]] of four cards of the same suit (colour and type) and one of a different suit. It's also an expression referring to a promising thing that ends up failing its potential.

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 === Lore ===
-Shiv was chosen by [[Grey Talon]] as his replacement in the [[The Baxter Society|Baxter Society]].<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|Grey Talon|file=orion_ally_shiv_unkillable_01.mp3|transcription=There goes my protegé.}}</ref><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Holliday|number=1|hero_quote1=Holliday|quote1=So you're with the Baxter Society?|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Hand picked by the old man himself.}}</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"It seems I chose my replacement poorly."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"And here I thought you could replace me, Shiv."''</ref> He has been in the Society for "a few years" and says he is not respected by the other members.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Abrams|number=1}}</ref>
+Shiv was chosen by {{HeroIcon|Grey Talon}} as his replacement in the [[The Baxter Society|Baxter Society]].<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|Grey Talon|file=orion_ally_shiv_unkillable_01.mp3|transcription=There goes my protegé.}}</ref><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Holliday|number=1|hero_quote1=Holliday|quote1=So you're with the Baxter Society?|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Hand picked by the old man himself.}}</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"It seems I chose my replacement poorly."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"And here I thought you could replace me, Shiv."''</ref> He has been in the Society for "a few years" and says he is not respected by the other members.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Abrams|number=1}}</ref>
 Shiv's wish is unknown, although he seems to be fighting in the ritual to prove himself to Grey Talon and the Baxter Society.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Pre-Game|voice line]] (Pre-Game Ping): ''"I'll prove to the old man that I'm worthy."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Post-Game|voice line]] (Post-Game Ping): ''"I did what I came here to do."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Post-Game|voice line]] (Post-Game Ping): ''"Think the Baxter Society's gonna be lookin' at me different, now!"''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Emotional|voice line]] (Sad): ''"I never shoulda taken this job..."''</ref> The [[Patron|Patrons]] don't seem to know what Shiv exactly wants, as they attempt to feed his ambition by making him a king, or offer to make Shiv "whole".<ref>{{PageRef|name=Amber Hand}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"The Baxter Society has given you purpose, but there is something still missing, yes? Free me and I will help you."''</ref><ref name=":1">{{PageRef|name=Sapphire Flame}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"You've been many things, Shiv. A brigand, a father, a killer. But if you summon me, I'll make you a king."''</ref><ref name=":2">{{PageRef|name=Sapphire Flame}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"Shiv, the monster inside you is not the Beast, it is ambition. Complete the ritual and you will finally be sated."''</ref>
-The [[Sapphire Flame]] says that Shiv "has been" a father.<ref name=":1" /> She also says that he has a "monster inside him" called "The Beast",<ref name=":2" /> and that he fears the Baxter Society could turn against him.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Sapphire Flame}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"I'' ''know you fear your brothers and sisters in the Baxter Society turning on you. But if you complete the Ritual, I can ensure you that never happens."''</ref> The [[Amber Hand]] mentions that Shiv wants to purge a "gift others would kill for".<ref>{{PageRef|name=Amber Hand}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"Many men would kill for the gift you're looking to purge. Nonetheless, complete the ritual and I will give you what you seek."''</ref>
+{{PageRef|name=The Archmother}} says that Shiv fears the Baxter Society could turn against him.<ref>{{PageRef|name=The Archmother}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"You found a new family in the Baxter Society, and now you fear them turning on you… but if you complete the ritual, the Archmother can ensure that never happens.''''"''</ref>
 Shiv likes to go bowling<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|file=Shiv unselect 07.mp3|context=(Unselect)|transcription=Sorry friend, today is my day off and I'm going bowling.}}</ref> and drink [[wikipedia:Bourbon_whiskey|bourbon]].<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|file=Shiv unselect 09.mp3|context=(Unselect)|transcription=Looks like I'll be hanging out with my good friend 'Bourbon' today.}}</ref> He is also referred to as a biker.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Holliday|file=Astro kill shiv 02.mp3|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=You're not above the law Shiv, you're just a shitty biker.}}</ref>
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 * Shiv has an [[:File:Monster Shiv model.png|alternate model]] in the game files titled '''"shiv_ult.vmdl_c"''' which shows an unfinished giant mole transformation, presumably meant for an old ultimate ability.
 * Shiv is voiced by '''Greg Chun''', who also voices [[Pocket]].<ref name=":0">{{YouTubeCite|1=https://youtu.be/cB8SgHZF1GQ?t=229|2=Greg's top 100 Voiceover roles 2025}}</ref>
+* In now removed voice lines, the [[Patron|Patrons]] said that Shiv "had been" a father<ref name=":1" /> and had a "monster inside him" called "The Beast".<ref name=":2" />
 * Shiv used to collect hairspray cans, presumably as an old version of his Rage passive ability.
 * Shiv's weapon name, the Busted Flush, is a hand in [[wikipedia:Poker|Poker]] of four cards of the same suit (colour and type) and one of a different suit. It's also an expression referring to a promising thing that ends up failing its potential.