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== Feedback (Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:19:52 UTC) == | == Feedback (Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:19:52 UTC) == | ||
{{Feedback|feedback=Excessive sourcing on they/them, | {{Feedback|feedback=Excessive sourcing on they/them, the citing by itself is perfectly fine but I think it might be rather unprofessional to add a lot of citations especially as of now 20? Don't take this in negative light as I think it has a place considering people misgendering them, but it can also be easily all densed into a sub page ([[Pocket/Pronouns]]?) explaining why they are using they/them by lisitng all the quotes in one list and then link the page as the citation.|user=Anonymous|resolved=true}} | ||
The citations are based on the [https://deltarune.wiki/w/Kris Deltarune Wiki], it's a harmless wiki gag that is often appreciated and mentioned by our users, so we prefer to keep it that way. --[[User:Gammaton32|Gammaton32]] ([[User talk:Gammaton32|talk]]) 14:46, 20 July 2026 (UTC) | |||
Regardless of the joke, a lot of the quotes are unreliable as citations and their inclusion actively diminishes the point of having references in the section. | |||
"A street urchin in a Santa hat is making waves, as they spread holiday cheer throughout New York" -this is a newspaper referring to an anonymous person, gendered pronouns wouldn't be used | |||
"The child was out of their depth." -"the child" is the subject of the sentence, making "their" more natural to use. | |||
"So the heir to Fairfax Industries has graced us with their presence" -same here, "heir" is the subject of the sentence. | |||
"I don't even wanna know what they got in that case." -he/she wouldnt work here, even a gendered person would have they used to make the sentence flow better | |||
"They were young and stupid"/"They need to let go of the past" (from Yamato in Japanese) - Japanese typically doesn't use pronouns, in the first, Yamato is just calling them a stupid person, and in the second, the subject is omitted. | |||
--[[User:MinaFan13|MinaFan13]] ([[User talk:MinaFan13|talk]]) 20:04, 31 August 2026 (UTC) | |||
Ok, first example makes sense in the context of the newspaper, though it could be argued that it uses a gender neutral descriptor for a reason. Examples 2-4 could have used gendered pronouns just as well. Same for 5-6, I can't speak specifically on Japanese grammar but Yamato does use gendered pronouns when speaking of other characters (and I mean specifically in the official subtitles in the game files, which - though I can't say I'm familiar with Valve's writing process - I can only presume are the lines as originally written in English). --[[User:Gammaton32|Gammaton32]] ([[User talk:Gammaton32|talk]]) 20:26, 31 August 2026 (UTC) | |||
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Feedback (Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:19:52 UTC)
[edit source]The citations are based on the Deltarune Wiki, it's a harmless wiki gag that is often appreciated and mentioned by our users, so we prefer to keep it that way. --Gammaton32 (talk) 14:46, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
Regardless of the joke, a lot of the quotes are unreliable as citations and their inclusion actively diminishes the point of having references in the section.
"A street urchin in a Santa hat is making waves, as they spread holiday cheer throughout New York" -this is a newspaper referring to an anonymous person, gendered pronouns wouldn't be used
"The child was out of their depth." -"the child" is the subject of the sentence, making "their" more natural to use.
"So the heir to Fairfax Industries has graced us with their presence" -same here, "heir" is the subject of the sentence.
"I don't even wanna know what they got in that case." -he/she wouldnt work here, even a gendered person would have they used to make the sentence flow better
"They were young and stupid"/"They need to let go of the past" (from Yamato in Japanese) - Japanese typically doesn't use pronouns, in the first, Yamato is just calling them a stupid person, and in the second, the subject is omitted.
--MinaFan13 (talk) 20:04, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
Ok, first example makes sense in the context of the newspaper, though it could be argued that it uses a gender neutral descriptor for a reason. Examples 2-4 could have used gendered pronouns just as well. Same for 5-6, I can't speak specifically on Japanese grammar but Yamato does use gendered pronouns when speaking of other characters (and I mean specifically in the official subtitles in the game files, which - though I can't say I'm familiar with Valve's writing process - I can only presume are the lines as originally written in English). --Gammaton32 (talk) 20:26, 31 August 2026 (UTC)