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== Overview ==
Shiv is fighting in the [[ritual]] on behalf of the [[The Baxter Society|Baxter Society]].<ref>{{PageRef|name=Archmother}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv start): ''"The Baxter Society is counting on you, Shiv. Don't fail your brothers."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Select|voice line]] (select): ''"The Baxter Society sent me."''</ref> His wish is unknown, but Shiv's motivation is to prove his worth to {{HeroIcon|Grey Talon}} and the Baxter Society.<ref name=":9">{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Pre-Game|voice line]] (Pre-Game Ping): ''"I'll prove to the old man that I'm worthy."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Post-Game|voice line]] (Post-Game Ping): ''"Think the Baxter Society's gonna be lookin' at me different, now!"''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Post-Game|voice line]] (Post-Game Ping): ''"I proved my worth."''</ref> 

=== Biography ===
Shiv's criminal past is described as "bloody" and "tortured",<ref>{{PageRef|name=Hidden King}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv start): ''"Yours is a bloody past, Shiv. But there is a life beyond it. Let the Hidden King show you the path forward."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Paige}}'s in-game [[Paige/Quotes#Allies|voice line]] (pass Shiv on zipline): ''"I'm a sucker for a man with a tortured past."''</ref> and according to those who knew him at the time, he did horrible things.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":5">{{VoiceLineCite|name=Venator|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#Enemy Heroes|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=You have many crimes to answer for, Shiv.}}</ref><ref name=":6" />

Shiv claims that the Baxter Society "saved his life",<ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Select|voice line]] (select): ''"The Baxter Society saved my life, and now I'm gonna save yours."''</ref> and his change of heart seems to be genuine,<ref>{{PageRef|name=Hidden King}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv start): ''"Some doubt your commitment to your new life, but the Hidden King's faith in you does not waver. Make him proud. Complete the ritual."''</ref> though others still don't trust him or believe he deserves redemption.<ref name=":7" /><ref name=":5" /><ref name=":3">{{ConvoCite|hero1=Venator|hero2=Grey Talon|number=3}}</ref>

Shiv was chosen by {{HeroIcon|Grey Talon}} as his replacement in the Baxter Society.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|Grey Talon|file=orion_ally_shiv_unkillable_01.mp3|transcription=There goes my protegé.}}</ref><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Holliday|number=1|hero_quote1=Holliday|quote1=So you're with the Baxter Society?|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Hand picked by the old man himself.}}</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"It seems I chose my replacement poorly."''</ref> Shiv has been in the Baxter Society for "a few years" and feels that he's still not respected by the other members,<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Abrams|number=1}}</ref><ref name=":4">{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Grey Talon|number=1}}</ref> fearing that they may turn on him.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Archmother}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv start): ''"You found a new family in the Baxter Society, and now you fear them turning on you. But if you complete the ritual, the Archmother can ensure that never happens."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=The Doorman}}'s in-game [[The Doorman/Quotes#Hotel Guest Taunt - Hero Specific|voice line]] (taunt Shiv): ''"The Baxter Society will turn on you, Shiv. It's only a matter of time."''</ref> It's implied that Shiv feels lonely.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Rem}}'s in-game [[Rem/Quotes#Naptime Taunt|voice line]] (Naptime taunt): ''"It's okay, Shiv. You're not alone."''</ref>

Shiv mentions that the Baxter Society have "their own problems" at the time of the ritual, which is why they aren't currently after the [[The Troubadour|Troubadour]]. While their exact problems are unknown, Shiv tells {{HeroIcon|Holliday}} that "if we don't clean up our own house you'll be wishing for Troubadour-sized problems".<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Holliday|number=2}}</ref>

Shiv allegedly "took something that doesn't belong to him".<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Graves|quotes=Graves/Quotes#Hero-Specific Voice Lines|transcription=You took something that doesn't belong to you, Shiv.}}</ref> 

Shiv is referred to as a biker.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Holliday|file=Astro kill shiv 02.mp3|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=You're not above the law Shiv, you're just a shitty biker.}}</ref><ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Paige|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#Enemy Heroes|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=Stopped the biker.}}</ref>

=== Personality ===
Shiv takes pride in his appearance, especially with his hair.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Holliday|number=1|hero_quote1=Holliday|quote1=Must have liked your hair.|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Lady, everyone likes my hair.}}</ref><ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#kill enemy hero|context=(melee kill)|transcription=Hope I didn't get blood in my hair.}}</ref> He claims that he doesn't need to do his pompadour as he "wakes up looking this pretty".<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Abrams|number=2|hero_quote1=Abrams|quote1=And how long did it take you to do your hair?|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Please, I wake up looking this pretty.}}</ref> Other characters often compliment Shiv's hair.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Lady Geist|number=3|hero_quote1=Lady Geist|quote1=I'm impressed.|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=I haven’t done anything yet.|hero_quote3=Lady Geist|quote3=You manage to make a pompadour look attractive.}}</ref><ref name=":10" /><ref name=":11" />

Shiv loves knives, and appreciates quality bladework.<ref name=":12" /><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Apollo|number=2}}</ref> He's also enthusiastic about stabbing things.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#unselect|context=(unselect)|transcription=Call me when you need something stabbed.}}</ref><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Lady Geist|number=3|hero_quote1=Shiv|quote1=Wait til you see me stab somethin’.}}</ref><ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Billy|quotes=Billy/Quotes#allies|context=(Shiv multikill)|transcription=Shiv is, uh, enthusiastic about stabbing people.}}</ref> Characters are often skeptical of Shiv's skills as an "amateur" in the Baxter Society,<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Lady Geist|number=2|hero_quote1=Lady Geist|quote1=Oh great. I'm paired with a rank amateur.|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Just try to keep up, Lady Geist. I’ll be accepting your apology later.}}</ref><ref>{{HeroIcon|Warden}}'s in-game [[Warden/Quotes#Allies|voice line]] (ally Shiv unkillable): ''"Looks like he's not a fop after all."''</ref><ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Calico|quotes=Calico/Quotes#allies|context=(Shiv multikill)|transcription=Okay, maybe he has talent.}}</ref> but he's confident in his own abilities.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Dynamo|number=3|hero_quote1=Dynamo|quote1=Stay close to me, Shiv. I'll do my best to keep you in the fight.|hero_quote2=Shiv|quote2=Professor, you couldn't keep me out of a fight.}}</ref><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Apollo|number=3}}</ref>

Shiv enjoys drinking [[wikipedia:Bourbon_whiskey|bourbon]] and frequents [[Jezebel's]].<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|file=Shiv unselect 09.mp3|context=(Unselect)|transcription=Looks like I'll be hanging out with my good friend 'Bourbon' today.}}</ref><ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#enemies|context=(killed Infernus)|transcription=Looks like that's one bar I won't be visiting anytime soon.}}</ref><ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#enemies|context=(killed Infernus)|transcription=Good bartender. Bad fighter.}}</ref> He intends to get a drink with his allies after the ritual if he wins.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#post-game|context=(post-game ping)|transcription=Time to celebrate! Who's buyin'?}}</ref><ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#emotional|context=(happy)|transcription=After this, drinks are on me.}}</ref> Shiv also enjoys bowling.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Shiv|file=Shiv unselect 07.mp3|context=(Unselect)|transcription=Sorry friend, today is my day off and I'm going bowling.}}</ref>

Shiv hates cats.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Calico): ''"I hate cats."''</ref>

=== Information ===
Shiv's weapon name, the [[wikt:busted_flush|'''Busted Flush''']]'','' is a hand in [[wikipedia:Poker|Poker]] of four cards of the same suit (colour and type) and one of a different suit. It's also an expression referring to a promising thing that ends up failing its potential.

== Character Relationships ==

=== {{HeroIcon|Grey Talon}} ===
Grey Talon chose Shiv to act as his replacement in the [[The Baxter Society|Baxter Society]].<ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Allies|voice line]] (unkillable allied Shiv): ''"There goes my protégé."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Grey Talon}}'s in-game [[Grey Talon/Quotes#Allies|voice line]] (unkillable allied Shiv): ''"I see I chose well."''</ref>

Grey Talon has high hopes for Shiv, despite his criminal past, and holds him in high regard, placing Shiv in the top 8 of people he'd want fighting alongside him.<ref name=":4" /><ref name=":8">{{ConvoCite|hero1=Grey Talon|hero2=Shiv|number=2}}</ref>

One of Shiv's goals in the ritual is to prove his worth to Grey Talon.<ref name=":9" />

=== {{PageRef|name=Drifter}} ===
Drifter knew Shiv before he joined the Baxter Society.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Drifter}}'s in-game [[Drifter/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (Killed Shiv): ''"The Baxter Society made you soft!"''</ref> If he kills Shiv, he calls him a "disappointment" and mentions that killing him feels "Shakespearean".<ref>{{PageRef|name=Drifter}}'s in-game [[Drifter/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (Killed Shiv): ''"You're such a disappointment, Shiv."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Drifter}}'s in-game [[Drifter/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (Killed Shiv): ''"You're not the man I thought you were, Shiv."''</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Drifter}}'s in-game [[Drifter/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (Killed Shiv): ''"Feels Shakespearean, don't it, Shiv?"''</ref> He also mentions that, had Shiv not "put himself in a muzzle, maybe he'd be worried".<ref>{{PageRef|name=Drifter}}'s in-game [[Drifter/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (Killed Shiv): ''"If you hadn't put yourself in a muzzle, maybe I'd be worried."''</ref> When hunting Shiv, he refers to himself as an "old friend".<ref>{{PageRef|name=Drifter}}'s in-game [[Drifter/Quotes#Bloodscent - Hero Specific|voice line]] (Bloodscent Hunting): ''"Why you hidin', Shiv? Don't want to say hello to an old friend?"''</ref> How Shiv and Drifter met each other is unknown.

=== {{PageRef|name=Silver}} ===
Silver loathes Shiv with a passion and refuses to believe he could change from his criminal past.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Silver}}'s in-game [[Silver/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"The Baxter Society can't protect you from me!"''</ref><ref name=":7">{{PageRef|name=Silver}}'s in-game [[Silver/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"I don't give a shit what the Baxter Society says, people don't change!"''</ref> She believes he deserves a fate worse than death.<ref name=":0">{{PageRef|name=Silver}}'s in-game [[Silver/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"He deserved worse."''</ref> 

Silver can't believe {{HeroIcon|Grey Talon}} stood up for Shiv.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Grey Talon|hero2=Silver|number=3}}</ref> 

How Silver and Shiv met each other and why Silver hates Shiv is currently unknown.

=== {{PageRef|name=Venator}} ===
Venator doesn't believe in Shiv's change of heart, waiting for him to slip up and ruin his "charade".<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Venator|quotes=Venator/Quotes#Hero-Specific Voice Lines|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=There is no redeeming you, Shiv.}}</ref><ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Venator|hero2=Shiv|number=3|hero_quote1=Venator|quote1=How much longer do you think you can keep the charade up? (...) A month? A year?|quote2=}}</ref>

Venator is puzzled by {{HeroIcon|Grey Talon}}'s choice of protégé and believes that Shiv should be dead. He warns Grey Talon that, if Shiv slips up, he won't be able to protect Shiv from the [[Venator|Swords of Saint Benedict]].<ref name=":3" />

== Character Interactions ==

* Multiple characters compliment Shiv's appearance, calling him "pretty boy",<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Infernus|suffix='|file=Inferno ping see shiv 02.mp3|context=(ping see Shiv)|transcription=I see that pretty boy.}}</ref> "handsome bastard",<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Pocket|file=Pocket ping see shiv 02.mp3|context=(ping see Shiv)|transcription=I see that handsome bastard.}}</ref> "impossibly handsome asshole",<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Lash|file=Lash kill shiv 02.mp3|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=There's only room for one impossibly handsome asshole.}}</ref> and a "shampoo ad with knives".<ref name=":10">{{VoiceLineCite|name=Ivy|file=Ivy ally shiv unkillable 02.mp3|context=(ally Shiv unkillable)|transcription=He's like a shampoo ad with knives!}}</ref>
* Shiv respects {{HeroIcon|Holliday}} and offers her a place at the Baxter Society.<ref>{{ConvoCite|hero1=Shiv|hero2=Holliday|number=3|hero_quote1=Shiv|quote1=You're the one looking to kill the Troubadour, right?|hero_quote2=Holliday|quote2=Yeah.|hero_quote3=Shiv|quote3=You make it out alive, you should look up the Baxter Society. We could use someone like you.}}</ref> If they're on opposing teams, Shiv promises to kill the [[The Troubadour|Troubadour]] on Holliday's behalf.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Holliday): ''"Don't worry Holliday, when this is over I'll kill the Troubadour in your behalf."''</ref> Shiv loves Holliday's hat.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Holliday): ''"Love the hat, though."''</ref>
* Shiv respects {{HeroIcon|Lash}}'s moxie.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Shiv}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Lash): ''"You got moxie, Lash, I'll give ya that."''</ref>
* {{HeroIcon|Lady Geist}} calls Shiv attractive and asks to have a drink with him after the ritual.<ref>[[Shiv/Quotes#Conversations|Lady Geist and Shiv conversation]]</ref>
* {{HeroIcon|Ivy}} expresses admiration for Shiv.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Ivy|file=Ivy ally shiv unkillable 01.mp3|context=(in Spanish)|transcription=I love that guy!}}</ref> {{HeroIcon|McGinnis}} wants to talk to Shiv and "fix him".<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=McGinnis|suffix='|file=Mcginnis kill shiv 03.mp3|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=When this is all over Shiv, we should talk.}}</ref><ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=McGinnis|suffix='|file=Mcginnis kill shiv 02.mp3|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=I can fix him!}}</ref> {{HeroIcon|Yamato}} will simply remark "nice hair".<ref name=":11">{{VoiceLineCite|name=Yamato|file=Yamato kill shiv 04.mp3|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=Nice hair.}}</ref>
* {{HeroIcon|Haze}} and {{HeroIcon|Vyper}} respect Shiv's taste in knives.<ref name=":12">{{ConvoCite|hero1=Haze|hero2=Shiv|number=3|hero_quote1=Haze|quote1=You got good taste in knives.|hero_quote2=Haze|quote2=Not enough people appreciate quality blade work.}}</ref><ref>{{PageRef|name=Vyper}}'s in-game [[Vyper/Quotes#Screwjab Dagger|voice line]] (Upgrade Screwjab Dagger): ''"Shiv's like the filet mignon of bladework, you know?"''</ref>
** Vyper also liked Shiv better when he was a criminal.<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Vyper|quotes=Shiv/Quotes#Enemy Heroes|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=Shiv, buddy, what did you let those losers in the Baxter Society do to you?}}</ref>
* {{HeroIcon|Celeste}} "doesn't get the appeal" of Shiv and says he has "ruined a lot of lives".<ref>{{VoiceLineCite|name=Celeste|quotes=Celeste/Quotes#Hero-Specific Voice Lines|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=I don't get the appeal.}}</ref><ref name=":6">{{VoiceLineCite|name=Celeste|quotes=Celeste/Quotes#Hero-Specific Voice Lines|context=(killed Shiv)|transcription=You ruined a lot of lives, Shiv. There's no coming back from that.}}</ref>
* {{HeroIcon|Paige}} thinks Shiv pulls off the "bad boy thing" better than {{HeroIcon|Lash}} does.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Paige}}'s in-game [[Paige/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"Lash should take notes: that's how you pull off the bad boy thing."''</ref> Paige likes Shiv, although she prefers {{HeroIcon|Mirage}}.<ref>{{PageRef|name=Paige}}'s in-game [[Paige/Quotes#Enemies|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"Eh... Mirage is better."''</ref>

== Removed Lore ==

* In removed voice lines, the [[Patron|Patrons]] said that Shiv "had been" a father<ref name=":1">{{PageRef|name=Sapphire Flame}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"You've been many things, Shiv. A brigand, a father, a killer. But if you summon me, I'll make you a king."''</ref> and had a "monster inside him" called "The Beast".<ref name=":2">{{PageRef|name=Sapphire Flame}}'s in-game [[Shiv/Quotes#Patrons|voice line]] (Shiv Start): ''"Shiv, the monster inside you is not the Beast, it is ambition. Complete the ritual and you will finally be sated."''</ref> These lines were removed in the [[Old Gods, New Blood]] update.
* {{HeroIcon|Infernus}} used to call Shiv a "blood mage".<ref>{{HeroIcon|Infernus}}' removed [[Infernus/Quotes#Enemies - Deadlock|voice line]] (killed Shiv): ''"Stopped the blood mage!"''</ref>

[[File:Shiv Neon Prime.png|thumb|167x167px|Shiv (Neon Prime)]]

=== Neon Prime ===
In ''[[Neon Prime]]'', Shiv was part of a crew of bounty-hunting bikers called "[[Neon Prime lore#The Meakashi|The Meakashi]]".
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